Today would be the fourth day that poor dog is lying out there on the streets, possibly paralysed (hopefully not).
After all the uncertainties with just how much the informer, Jenny Lim, wants to do for the dog, after our offer to subsidise 50% and Martin Lui and Ms Phong’s offers to help with the rest of the bill, the poor dog is still lying there on the street because no one could send it to the vet’s.
PAWS is going to take in the dog today, pending directions given by Jenny Lim, if she can be contacted. The manager will call her and get the directions.
We have offered to help out with all medical attempts (treatment) made to save this dog.
We are also aware that PAWS has its euthanasia policy and will respect that.
Since no one and no other organisation has come forward to take in this dog, it looks like we have no other option. Rather than let the poor dog continue suffering and dying a slow death out there, this seems to be a “better” choice though not ideal.
However, PAWS welcomes anyone who wishes to help this dog. For now, they will take the dog off the streets first, send it to the vet for an evaluation and they will work it out from there.
Thank you, PAWS.
Note: As with Evelyn Wong’s case with Moon Moon, we will subsidise the first day’s treatment which was intended to save Moon Moon’s life. But on the following day, Evelyn opted for euthanasia for Moon Moon as she could not commit to looking after her. That, we cannot subsidise.
Updates at 10.54am – Martin Lui and Ms Phong have both offered to help subsidise the medical treatment of this dog as well so as not to drain PAWS’ resources as they have a shelter to upkeep. Our 50% subsidy stands. However, I don’t think Jenny has been contacted yet. She has not replied the text message, so until she does, nobody knows where the dog is.
Updates at 11.32am – From Ms Phong:
Dear dr. Chan and martin,
Arrangement has been made to collect kuchai mama dog at 1230pm today. I am going to be there to guide PAWS staff to the location of the dog. From the description provided by Jenny, i could roughly guess where the dog is. Please pray that the dog is still there and alive! Hang on there kuchai mama dog, just a matter of a few hours time and the rescue tean is there for you!
Martin, let’s work together to provide the needy financial support to kuchai mana dog. Afterall, we have gone that for for her.
Will keep you posted and i will try to take photos of the dog for Dr. Chan.
Have a good day, people.
Chun Eng
Comments
21 responses to “PAWS goes to the rescue (Kuchai Avenue dog)”
What? The poor thing is still not helped by anyone at all? Easy is to give tonnes of comments on those who are willing to carry the burden of helping these innocent animals even through their poverty. But one should have the genuine heart to help to come forward to help. There seem to be lots of people with cash & cars, but simply couldnt be bothered about the pains these poor animals are going through. Some humans nature is such.
Devi.. the decision whether someone is able to help or not should really be considered carefully before taking on the responsibility. The decision should not be taken lightly because it’s lives you’re talking about. All ego should be put out of the way and focus should be on what’s best for the animal. Need I remind you on how you killed Cindy and nearly killed Stuart when they were under your “care”?
So don’t go all “holier than thou” on us when you’re no angel.
I think those who responded with ‘cash & cars’ do have the genuine heart to help. But if the initial rescuer cannot be contacted to give the proper location and direction, why are those with ‘cash & cars’ being blamed? If it’s the initial rescuer you’re referring to, other than being difficult to be contacted & unclear on location/decision, I think it’s up to her to decide if it’s within her ability to take responsibility and care for the animal. Right now I know I’m unable to take up more responsibility with my work and family commitments and my dogs, and I’m most certain I will need to ask for others to assist if I’m in such position. But should I be blamed for trying to keep myself insane?
I honestly don’t get your point.
Devi, can we earmark you for the next rescue case? The next time Dr Chan asks for help for any dog or cat, we shall all nominate you so that you can walk your talk. But now I’m hearing about your Cindy case…are you sure you are qualified to condemn others?
And what are YOU doing, Devi Narayanan? Quick to criticise, but you yourself are not doing anything at all? By the way, remember what you did to Cindy and Stuart? In case you have forgotten, we remember. Shall we remind you what you did that caused Cindy to die and then refused to hand over Stuart when he was dying under your hands? Quick to criticise others? Look into a mirror, Devi Narayanan, before you criticise others.
Would you like to offer to take over this dog, since you talk so much, Devi? I’m sure someone would be willing to bring the dog to you. From the post by Dr Chan, PAWS welcomes anyone to help this dog. Why don’t you offer, Devi? Don’t just sit there and bombard others. OFFER your help and show us the way!
Devi,
From what I have read, AnimalCare has responded by offering 50% of the medical cost. But the rescuer hasnt done anything yet to bring the injured dog to the vet. The rescuer hasnt even given the exact location where the dog is lying and she is so difficult to contact. How then do you expect anyone to respond to the appeal? There are already 2 individuals who responded to the SOS appeal. And now Dr Chan has contacted Paws for help and Paws has kindly consented to pick up the dog and send it to the vets for treatment.
If memory serves me right, are you not the rescuer who despite pleas from many people refused to let go of a kitten who almost died of diarrhoea and dehydration while the kitten was in your care? If it wasnt for AnimalCare’s effort in rescuing the kitten from you, that kitten would have died a long time ago.
katie
KY,
it is very difficult to get Jenny lest trying to get proper directions. We have our limitations and can only do something if the initial rescuer is able to actively help. Given that PAWS is going to get the dog – MDDB will also contribute towards its medical care. Please ask Edward to keep us in the loop about the dog’s prognosis. In the event there is not fracture of the spinal column – paralysis maybe a temporary manifestation.
I also don’t know what Devi is complaining about when so much efforts have been made to help this dog (I have been following the blog posts). What did you do, Devi? Why didn’t you offer to take in this paralysed dog? If you had, I’m sure Dr Chan would have got someone to send it to you.
Low.. you definitely don’t want Devi to be taking care of any animal. She has already had a history of neglecting the animals whom she was fostering causing one to die and then refusing to release the other one for treatment. Some history for those who don’t know what Devi’s “claim to fame” was before coming out all preachy these days.
http://animalcare.my/2011/07/24/its-not-about-us-its-about-the-animals-a-dilemma-in-stuarts-case
Hi All,
Can we all sit back a little and think what we are saying here? How many of you really knows what is going on on Jenny’s side? Don’t complaint and criticise about what Jenny has done or not. If not for her, the dog would still be out there and know one would know better. I, personally has spoken to Jenny 3 times and I know and understand what is going on on her side.
As for Devi, which of us have not made mistakes before? Why are we condemning each other here? Lets give Devi a 2nd chance and be thankful to Jenny for highlighting that injured dog. The important think here is, that dog is rescued and is doing fine for now.
If we all continue to do that, who will dare to do rescue or try to do it in the future? Let’s all work together and help those poor animals out there.
Yes Mr Lim, you understood Jenny’s situation after talking to her. Here I see critisizers who have not even seen or spoken to me jumping to conclusions. I am here NOT to argue but I dont understand why this batch is holding grudges against me. Unfortunately when an animal dies during our custody, not necessarily we plan it. You know my true situation Mr Lim and thanks a lot for understanding. You took the initiative to come all the way and talk to me in person. I have not neglected my babies as claimed by Donovan. Am not complaining as Low said, I have my rights to comment too. Is it a criminal offence? And Katie, I came forward to foster / adopt the babies when they were about to be surrendered to SPCA. Why those who are critising me, never took an initiative to to so? When you all have your own reasons for not doing so, can I blame you for not fostering or adopting the babies? Its no point hurting me further please. Thanks
Devi,
I’m afraid you’ve mistaken CS Lim for the other Mr Lim who drove to speak to you in Brickfields when you refused to give up Stuart. CS Lim is a different Mr Lim. He knows absolutely nothing about what you did to Cindy and Stuart; he is a new reader to this blog.
The Mr Lim who spoke to you is CK Lim. You’re referring to the wrong person here. Your statement “Why those who are critising me, never took an initiative to to so?” applies to yourself in this case. Why are you criticising people with “cash and cars” who did not take the initiative to save the Kuchai dogs when you also did not take the initiative to do so?
If you must know why people still remember your Cindy-Stuart case, here’s why: I believe most people will not fault you for Cindy’s death, if despite your years of looking after kittens, you genuinely do not know that they should not be given Fernleaf milk or that if they have diarrhoea, it is not to be taken lightly. But the fact that Stuart was also dying (having the same symptoms as Cindy) and you refused to give him up when we had worked so hard at finding another fosterer – that is something people will not forget easily. Or, that your reason was, as you claimed, that your son refused to eat if Stuart was taken away and you wanted to prove to the world that you could successfully foster a kitten at the expense of the poor boy’s life. That is hard to forget. That was not about making any “mistake”. I hope you know the difference.
If you take the trouble to read the comments in this blog, we do not have the habit of criticising people. The reason so many readers replied to your comment is because you started it first, and you cannot blame the readers for remembering what you did to Cindy and Stuart. It wasn’t so long ago.
Giving constructive suggestions instead of criticising people may be a better habit in life.
Lim: I don’t see many criticising Jenny in the comments above except that she was really difficult to be contacted. If it’s a fact that she was difficult to be reached, then it’s a fact. It could be due to poor signal at her workplace or even strict workplace policy. I think most people understand that, I even defend Jenny in my comment, just in case Devi was commenting about her.
As for Devi, I think no one will ever jump on her if she didn’t jump on those with ‘cash and cars’ in the first place. I just didn’t understand Devi’s comment – which until now, I still don’t understand her point, like I mentioned in my earlier comment. Was she talking about Jenny or people who tried to help in the form of donation? I find both doing absolutely good thing at own capability. So what it is to complain about?
Devi,
This is CKLim. I am the person who came to your house to talk to you and ask you to seriously consider surrendering Stuart to another rescuer so that he could be saved. I remember talking to you for more than 30 minutes and how frustrating it was when you stubbornly refused to surrender Stuart because you wanted to prove to the world that you could take care of him despite your financial constraints, etc.
Looking at all the comments written by the various animal rescuers and animal lovers in this blog, I believe many people still remember how you let your ego get into your way instead of immediately cooperating with other rescuers to save little Stuart. They remember how your stubborn stand almost caused Stuart to lose its precious life. It was only at the brink of Stuart’s life that you finally consented to let another rescuer take over Stuart. I can hence understand the anger expressed in their comments.
Coming back to this “Kuchai Avenue dog’s” case, it is not correct for you to accuse that those with “cash and car” do not bother to rescue sick animals. I came to your house with my car and yet you refused to surrender Stuart to me.
In the “Kuchai Avenue dog’s” case, the rescuer had wrongly reported the dog’s condition to Dr Chan. The dog was not paralysed. And if you had followed the subsequent stories, the dog (and another dog) had been taken to the vet for neutering/spaying. Both dogs are now returned to their owners.
Devi, as an animal lover and rescuer, you need to know your limitations. I believe you are sheltering about 20 cats in your apartment. You had told me before that you are financially very tight and that your mother needs regular medical care/treatment. Why dont you consider offering some your cats up for adoption?
CKLim
Mr Lim, sometime back, I requested Kah Yein to blog for 2 stray kitten for adoption. Till now there is no respond for adoption. Not easy to gt adopters, furthermore most of my cats are seniour.
It is never easy to get adopters, Devi. Once we pick up from the streets, we must be prepared to adopt. But adoption should only be done when we can provide for them. They should not suffer under our “care” due to our lack of resources, financial, space, time, energy and knowledge. Having love alone is not enough. Remember we helped you with one of your tiny kittens three years ago? We picked her up from your house, she was already dying. We brought it to the vet, she was put on drips, but she did not make it. She died of worms. That death could have been prevented had you just dewormed the kitten at the right age. To look after animals, you need to have the knowledge. If you don’t have, you need to ask the vet for advice. Always seek professional advice and not do whatever you think is right. Lives are in your hands.
Despite my jobless situation for the last 2 years and struggling my mom’s medical needs and my son education necessity, I still do my best for my babies. When I cant manage, thats when I ask animal lovers like you or Kah Yein to help me. When Cindy & Stuart first came to me in a pool of diarrhoea, I did take them to Prem’s clinic where the vet told me its too early for deworming.
As a person without transport and very poor knowledge of locations, I had to seek your help to buy milk as kitten milk was not available at the vets clinic. The one I bought from Sri Kota too was not suitable either. If I had not attempted all these despite my sickly situation (me being a diebetic & on 16 points insulin nightly & frequent giddiness), I may be blamed a “serial killer”.
But I didnt want to push my burden to others even though I know my limitation. This is how I damaged myself to this extend now.
We found a fosterer for Stuart when he was dying under your care. The correct and most merciful thing was to let the adopter take over. It was not about “pushing the burden”. That was never your reason. Your reason was that your son refused to eat and you wanted to prove to the world that you could successfully foster a kitten. So, please do not distort the facts now. You also harassed the two people who were helping with your unpleasant smses.
Stuart is very well and alive today. He has a new name.
If I do not have the expertise to nurse any animal, or I’m failing badly despite my best efforts, I would quickly ask for help and surrender the animal to a more skillful person. It is about the animal. Not about our ego.
Honestly Kah Yein, I didnt know about deworming and the seriousness until you told me. Now every 3 months, I deworm them with “Praziplus” tablets. Thanks for the info.
Hi Devi,
I don’t know you and I have never met you. When I last wrote in this blog and asked the others to give you a 2nd chance, I am actually telling you to look into yourself and ask yourself what you have done and whether you deserves the 2nd chance. I am sure all in this blog can give you that chance but can you yourself give yourself that? I know it’s not easy to face the truth and it’s easier to be in denial. I am new in this blog but I am certainly not new in the animal rescue world and I have heard of you. You can go on living in denial, your choice and I am not here to judge you or anyone. Only HE can do that and all of us will have to answer HIM when the time comes.